1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 The water was 45 degrees in the morning. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Big thunderstorm that night, it was right before the big thunderstorm. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Of course it was raining at the time. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,000 The car was just dill-sundered. 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,000 It had a red light on each side. 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,000 One red was green and the other red is orange and gold. 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 It had a big spotlight. 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 It was a big spotlight. 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,000 It was a spotlight. 10 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,000 It was the sun that night, actually. 11 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Shining down. 12 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Did you see any sort of structure? 13 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000 It was a big object to self-image. 14 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 It was triangular. 15 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,000 The thing we saw on the newspaper the other day, the thing you described, right? 16 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,000 I didn't see it. 17 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 I saw it in the observatory. 18 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:43,000 I think Ron has a picture of Newton Grove police officer Drew. 19 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 The exact same thing that you saw. 20 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,000 How far away is Newton Grove from what you were? 21 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Newton Grove is about 80 miles from here. 22 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,000 It's in Faxon County. 23 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Where were you at the time of Newton Grove? 24 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Boston. 25 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,000 I was out first and then in the middle. 26 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,000 How far away from you would it have been, do you reckon? 27 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,000 I'd say 200 or 300 yards or something. 28 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,000 Was it over the roadway or off the road? 29 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Did you stop the car? 30 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Yeah, and did you get it all? 31 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,000 Did you hear any sound? 32 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,000 I did hear it on the phone. 33 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Did that make you a little more curious about what you were looking at? 34 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,000 It was a little more curious. 35 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Was it moving at that step? 36 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 It was moving. 37 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,000 When it did move, did it move fast? 38 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 It was going really fast. 39 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,000 How long would it have been hovering when you were looking at it? 40 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,000 About 12? 41 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,000 About 12. 42 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:49,000 I tried to get that close to it when I first stopped the car and got out. 43 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:54,000 It stood there for a while, and it worked 5-2 seconds. 44 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 It didn't stay there long when I stopped. 45 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 It managed like that or it just didn't move away? 46 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,000 I see it move away, but it was very good. 47 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 It was filled with a horizontal position. 48 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,000 Hey, Ron. 49 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,000 What do you think it was? 50 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,000 Could it have been an aircraft? 51 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,000 I don't know. 52 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 What color was this plane on the top? 53 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,000 That's right, it was a bright light. 54 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 That's the crew name. 55 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,000 It just turned like that. 56 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Were you in the car at the time? 57 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 Did you stop the car at all to get out? 58 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Oh yeah, I stopped. 59 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,000 I got out and parked. 60 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,000 I was in the car. 61 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,000 I was in the car at 6. 62 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,000 It was a crash. 63 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Did it make any noise that you could hear? 64 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,000 No, it didn't. 65 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,000 No photo of Sam at all. 66 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Did this thing have any kind of light or beam? 67 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Light coming out from it, obviously. 68 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Not shining down on the dirt. 69 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,000 It was right out in front of it, just like an airplane. 70 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,000 Was it pulsating at all or was it a constant light? 71 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,000 It was burning. 72 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 They want a blink and arrow. 73 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,000 They want a light on it. 74 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,000 I think it was awfully quiet, huh? 75 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,000 How big do you think the thing was? 76 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Could you estimate? 77 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Well, it was... 78 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,000 I don't think it was quite as big as a small aircraft. 79 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,000 Just that much. 80 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Now, Phil Stanton said that he didn't think it was much bigger than his car. 81 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,000 It looked a little bigger than his car. 82 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Yeah, it was much smaller. 83 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,000 I said, I said, I'm 17, 27. 84 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,000 It was coming right down there, straight down this road, Jim. 85 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:34,000 He got about the 3.018 cross-dialing and it just turned and went back towards your fizz. 86 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:39,000 And that's probably when Phil thought as it was passing that way. 87 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,000 It turned there. 88 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,000 It was coming right... I said, I shouldn't stop, son. 89 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,000 On the 3.018, he came right up with... 90 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,000 Whether it was with the telepomp over. 91 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,000 He got right about the... 92 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,000 There was a telepomp over, I said, you know, 3.018, the next and down here. 93 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,000 He just came right straight towards that way and it just turned like that. 94 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Could you see what it was made out of? 95 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 No, you could tell when it was up, what it was made out of. 96 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,000 You could see the shape on the back. 97 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Yeah, you could tell it was in a big shape, right? 98 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,000 How many colored lights were together? 99 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Well, I never counted the lights on them. 100 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,000 But how many colors was there? 101 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,000 A white, white, white, two in the original color. 102 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Red and green and then the bright light. 103 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,000 These three just, of course, just had bright lights in the front of it. 104 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,000 From what light? 105 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Well, the one night in Trump was just like a headlight on an audible field. 106 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000 It was shining right straight down in front of you. 107 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Now, somebody said they seemed more shining down, but I never seen them. 108 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,000 How long did this whole thing, from the time you started to the time? 109 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Well, now from the time I seen it and getting after the highway noise about eight minutes to get to it. 110 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,000 And it was... 111 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,000 It turned. 112 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 It started back towards the end of them. 113 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Well, that's when we got an audible field and we started off and we picked up a city man from out on that. 114 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,000 And he was right beside it and then he started picking up a speeding. 115 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,000 I got up to a hundred and he just left and... 116 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:04,000 And the army, I showed me where they got something like that and showed me how to take it up and say on the thing, mate. 117 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,000 I'll say that's what it was, but I don't see it either. 118 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Yeah, and you... 119 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,000 It ain't no airplane. 120 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,000 Oh, okay. 121 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,000 They had these little lights. 122 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Yeah. 123 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,000 These little lights around them. 124 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Okay, and... 125 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,000 These little lights around him. 126 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Okay, and what color? 127 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,000 Were they all the same? 128 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,000 They were all the same. 129 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Well, they were real green. 130 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,000 They were green. 131 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,000 They were different color. 132 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Now, when you were watching it, did they seem to go on and off or were they full of sort? 133 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,000 They didn't blink a bit. 134 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,000 That's what I was saying. 135 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,000 They just stayed on. 136 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,000 They did stay on. 137 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,000 They blinked it off. 138 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,000 I just wish this land let me give proof of what it is. 139 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,000 It didn't blink a bit. 140 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,000 If it blinked, I could have seen nothing, but it just turned. 141 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,000 It was bright white on amber light. 142 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,000 This was, it appeared to be a three-top level. 143 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:54,000 I observed it through the night, on DAC, looking when I was traveling south and I was looking 144 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,000 more like a north-eastly, east-killy direction. 145 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:02,000 And this bright white, the amber light, it was illuminating the perimeter. 146 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:07,000 If there were, it was so pretty, if there was any running lights along the perimeter of 147 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,000 it, it would drown in them all, or they would blow the tree to death. 148 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:16,000 This was seen about a minute and a half before I saw it, and rolled in by a rolling city policeman, 149 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:22,000 which is 15 to 20 miles south of us, and a minute and a half after I saw it by an officer 150 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,000 in St. Paul's, 10 miles north. 151 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,000 And they were describing exactly the same time I saw it. 152 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Well, let me give a picture of five miles and I was running that child. 153 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,000 I was running about 50 to 55 miles. 154 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:47,000 It came down to the old, this way right here was dark. 155 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:56,000 The whole pro-side road lit up, and just like the day light, and stationery all right here 156 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,000 where I'm at right now. 157 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:05,000 And I travel on, this is a trailer park couple of miles, about 300 yards. 158 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:16,000 I travel on the hit, I pull over, and I stop, stop a tow car, got out, and looked up 159 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:23,000 at it, and I was surprised, and had to look back, and I leased back in the car, and I got my 160 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:28,000 dozen officers out here in the car, and I looked up at it. 161 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:35,000 And then I take them off, I got an airplane landing light, but I don't care about the 162 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 tow car, and I try to get that back. 163 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,000 And I think the light out of here, it'll get flint back. 164 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:47,000 I take another look at it, and look at it with the nose. 165 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Then it moved at a west, and my way was to the west towards Robinson, and it moved away 166 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:04,000 from me, I followed it about two miles, right when I was driving. 167 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,000 I don't know how fast from you said it was going on that left. 168 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,000 I got up to 85 or 90, and it walked until it left. 169 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 How was it at this time? 170 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:19,000 It had time, and it went up in there, and it went up about a little way up. 171 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:25,000 I'd say, well, when it left me, it started with, I threw out this batch of light, I 172 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:30,000 passed light on it, went up straight up in there, and then went out, moved down about 173 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,000 it. 174 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,000 That there was a good 200 mile-long hour, because it just walked right right from me. 175 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Chief, when you first observed the biject, did it come from any particular direction, 176 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,000 or did it rise from the tree? 177 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,000 It came right down over, right down on top of it, like it was going to hit the car. 178 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,000 It got pulled over. 179 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Now, the question, what did you say it got to you? 180 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,000 About 200 feet. 181 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,000 You didn't get a good look at it. 182 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 I got a good look at it. 183 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,000 It just climbed the crash for me. 184 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,000 It was a big, big shape. 185 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Had lights all the way around it, with the big light. 186 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:09,000 It looked to be about the size of a double, size of a stem wheel of a car that was shining 187 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,000 down the main minute light. 188 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:17,000 It would light up about, I'd say, at least 500 feet on both sides of the road. 189 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,000 It just lit up in a circle, I think. 190 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Did it make any sound at all? 191 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,000 Not a bit. 192 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,000 Did it at any time just stop and hover in midair? 193 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,000 Just one time, it stopped while I was driving. 194 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 It stayed stopped about five minutes. 195 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,000 So you don't think it could have been a dead or any kind of aircraft like that? 196 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 Jack can't park in there. 197 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,000 But where's Jack can park in there? 198 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Actually, Jack can't fly 200 feet. 199 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,000 He can't fly 200 feet to start with. 200 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,000 He can make the trees off. 201 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,000 So you're positive it wasn't any kind of conventional aircraft then? 202 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,000 It was not no aircraft. 203 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:03,000 No, not that we have, but I saw a lot of it, but I've never seen it like that. 204 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,000 It was not an helicopter. 205 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:11,000 If it's been an helicopter, I would have just thought it was an helicopter. 206 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 What caused you to blink like that? 207 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:20,000 I just thought I'd blink to see if it was someone in it, if they'd blink it back at me. 208 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:27,000 I was heading south on 1166, which is near my home. 209 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:32,000 In fact, I was on my way to have lunch or supper. 210 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:38,000 When we spotted the craft to the east, northeast, it immediately gave pursuit. 211 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,000 And soon over took the craft. 212 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,000 It hovered along the side of the roadway, approximately 100 yards away. 213 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,000 As it was dark, I stepped outside of the vehicle and with my right arm, 214 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,000 took the right switch and switched the lights on and off and sure enough, 215 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:59,000 I got every spot from the front headlight or spotlight from the vehicle. 216 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:04,000 The vehicle having two spotlights on it went on the front and went on the back. 217 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:10,000 It then proceeded to move in a southwestern direction and I turned around to give pursuit again. 218 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,000 It soon lost sight of the craft as it disappeared behind trees. 219 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:19,000 I must say this, that I did get within 100 yards of the craft 220 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:25,000 and was able to get it to signal back to me with its front headlight. 221 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Being 100 yards away, there's no possibility that it could have been mistaken for a Duller aircraft 222 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,000 or any other man-made aircraft for that matter. 223 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,000 I have never seen anything like it before. 224 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Well, we were on Philadelphia Road, headed north and just driving along into the northern area speed 225 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,000 and I was driving the car and I was the first one to see it. 226 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,000 I observed what I thought to be five big lights. 227 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,000 I would say, oh, gifts to be about 100 feet in the air. 228 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:06,000 And the moment I focused my eyes on them, it appeared that they were maybe going at a speed of about 50 miles an hour 229 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,000 and then they speeded up like 100 miles an hour. 230 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,000 And I went to tell my wife and two daughters to look. 231 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,000 So let's see those lights and they did. 232 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:20,000 And momentarily I'd taken my eyes back off of them to make a turn, a right hand turn. 233 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:25,000 And my wife and daughter, they kept their eyes focused on it and they observed it. 234 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:30,000 Going in a downward position, like headed towards the ground. 235 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:35,000 And we followed it and it went down behind a house. 236 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:42,000 I would say 16 to 24 inch street behind them, behind each one of them. 237 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:48,000 I couldn't determine if there was smoke but it didn't appear to be smoke behind each one of them. 238 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,000 It didn't even look like a flame. 239 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,000 It was just a beautiful streak behind each one of them. 240 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,000 And we had church at 630 and it was 515 at that time. 241 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,000 And I thought the time we could get home and get dressed. 242 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:08,000 It would be time for church but obviously we run into something we didn't anticipate running into. 243 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:14,000 These people, they don't tell you if you come up with any kind of little story. 244 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:19,000 It's got to be something that excites you whenever you see something like this. 245 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:24,000 I really don't think at any time the trees even bothered them. 246 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,000 I think they were high up enough. 247 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:34,000 And I think that they were in a position to totally miss the trees in the house that we talked about. 248 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:39,000 There's a big light in the center of it. 249 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,000 And that light is as bright as any thing that I've ever seen. 250 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Bright is, I've never seen a light as bright as that. 251 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 I've seen church lights for on airports. 252 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,000 What I've never seen a light as bright as that thing. 253 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,000 That light shines. 254 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,000 It will shine right down towards the ground. 255 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,000 And what color were all these lights? 256 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,000 A different color light. 257 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,000 There were blue lights, there were red lights, there were all different color lights on me. 258 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,000 They didn't have no sound whatsoever. 259 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Now how did you determine that? 260 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,000 Like did you go outside? 261 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,000 I was sitting here, I was sitting in the building here, I didn't see anything. 262 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,000 Did you go out at all just to see if you could get a closer look at it? 263 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,000 Oh yeah, I went outside there and I couldn't hear a thing on it. 264 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,000 We got a system right there. 265 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,000 If there's any noise at all, I'd hear a picky dip. 266 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,000 Really? 267 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,000 Yeah. 268 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,000 It would pick it up all the way across that bridge down yonder, 269 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,000 or anybody who was by down back to that plant down yonder. 270 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,000 That would pick it up. 271 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,000 You mean you've got microphones set up down there that pick this up 272 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,000 and then chance for the sound back in? 273 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,000 Right. 274 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 I just walked right out here on this driveway. 275 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,000 Yeah. 276 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,000 And I thought of things. 277 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,000 Where was the killing point? 278 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,000 It came from back in here towards the city's 95 Highway back in here. 279 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Someone told me they traveled about 95 or something. 280 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,000 They come across here, raise a canal right down here at the back of this plant down here. 281 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,000 Yeah. 282 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,000 And that's where he was at. 283 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,000 He just was at the bud of the tree top. 284 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,000 I thought he was touching the tree top. 285 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Yeah. 286 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,000 No sound whatsoever. 287 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,000 So well. 288 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,000 He came right up down here and just looked like he'd just come up there and stopped there 289 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,000 for a little bit. 290 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,000 Over what? 291 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Over the building over here? 292 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,000 Well, right in front of the front office. 293 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,000 Yeah. 294 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,000 He was just in on hit over there. 295 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,000 Right. 296 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,000 He looked like he just came up there and stopped and set up a little bit and then he started 297 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,000 the movement over and over. 298 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,000 I never seen nothing move like the move. 299 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,000 Our airplane can't come up there and do that. 300 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,000 Our helicopter needs one without me hearing it. 301 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,000 Tell me what happened when the lights went out. 302 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,000 When was that? 303 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,000 It happened two nights. 304 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,000 That thing came back close. 305 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,000 Two different nights on the Q's tonight and winds tonight. 306 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,000 At the time it came from the same direction and it went back close to the same direction 307 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,000 as it came from. 308 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,000 All of these lights you on the front of the plant there, that's the lights that went out. 309 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,000 We have one, two, three, four, five lights. 310 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Now where are these lights powered from? 311 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,000 Are they powered by the same source that these lights over here? 312 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Same lights as those are down here. 313 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Were these still burning? 314 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,000 They were still on. 315 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,000 They were still on. 316 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Those was out. 317 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,000 And yet they're all powered by the same source. 318 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,000 That's right. 319 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,000 The lights stayed out as long as that thing was. 320 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:16,000 They were all down there and when it left, the lights came back on. 321 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,000 I said at least five minutes that were out there. 322 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,000 But it was just as plain as this. 323 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,000 Obviously you got your hand here. 324 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Yeah. 325 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,000 Just right out there. 326 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Just a hand that was touching the tree top that didn't miss much. 327 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,000 It was right down on them. 328 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,000 Yeah, if it was on a plane I would have heard it. 329 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,000 A helicopter, it comes up and stops. 330 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,000 It's going to make a noise. 331 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,000 The motor's got to run to hold it up down there. 332 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,000 And that thing did not have no noise whatsoever.